Tad Thomlinsonbergurson (TT): As the generally accepted inventor/primary innovator of Mind Maps, can you summarize or walk us through a little of your journey from from Buddhism to creating digital memory files?

Ned: I can be brief, but I don’t know if I can also be effective.

TT: I understand. And I do appreciate your time.

Ned: So, I was skimming the Tibetan Book of the Dead one afternoon.

TT: As one does.

Ned: Exactly. So, in Buddhism you can train to remember past lives. That’s part of it all, anyway. I’m not an expert. And ever since the Big Reveal, there are a good many of us wanting to take advantage of it all, to somehow be able to continue on in the next iteration where this one left off.

TT: You started with the mind mapping templates several years ago.

Ned: Right. At first, all I could think about was – let’s help people organize this iteration, make it consumable, understandable.

TT: Early critics argued you were on the road to wasting more life than anything else? If we spend a huge part of this iteration organizing data for the next and in the next we spend years adequately processing the last, then we may waste most of a lifetime preparing to live it in a way that we think builds upon the last.

Ned: Well, I knew right away we had to reduce the time needed to catch up to the value of this lifetime. Mind Maps were just the first step.

TT: People say it was a money grab.

Ned: I know what they said, but we forget so much as we move through it all. I wanted to get something out right away to get people started. And I needed the data.

TT: Again, people called that a money grab.

Ned: But that’s not true, either. I needed the data to learn how to do this better. And the understanding of the last iteration needs to happen much faster in the next iteration.

TT: That’s key, right?

Ned: If you spend your whole life learning what you did in the last, what’s the point?